Is WHOIS going to go away?

Mark Andrews marka at isc.org
Sat Apr 21 22:48:01 UTC 2018


You have a logic fail.  This fails because it STILL depends on the DNS for the zone working. 

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Mark Andrews

> On 22 Apr 2018, at 07:27, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon at orthanc.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2018, at 1:58 PM, bzs at theworld.com wrote:
>> 
>> That's actually an excellent point and counterpoint to my suggestion
>> to move the WHOIS information into DNS RRs.
>> 
>> But backup and failover are reasonably well understood technologies
>> where one cares. Registrars could for example cache copies of those
>> zone records and act as failover whois servers.
> 
> Instead of putting the contact info directly into the DNS, put pointers to the locations of the data instead. I.e. whois moves off dedicated ports and hardwired servers and into zone-controlled SRV records:
> 
> _whois._tcp.orthanc.ca SRV 0 0 43 orthanc.ca.
>                       SRV 5 0 43 backup.otherdomain.example.com.
> 
> This gives each zone control of the information they want to export (by directing whois(1) to what they consider to be authoritative servers).
> 
> The domain owners themselves could control the information they chose to expose to the public, through the SRV records, and the information they chose to publish in the whois servers those records point at.  If the domain owner is happy with their (say) registrar providing that information, they would just point the appropriate SRV record at the registrar.  This is no different from how people handle email outsourcing via MX records.
> 
> The idea that whois is in any way authoritative is long gone.  Those who want to hide have been able to do that for ages.  (I think I pay $15/year to mask some of the domains I control.)  But for law enforcement, a warrant will always turn up the payment information used to register a domain, should the constabulary want to find that information out.  And for court proceedings, whois data is useless.  (I speak from $WORK experience.)
> 
> --lyndon
> 



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