Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?

Thu Apr 5 12:42:48 UTC 2018

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 4:19 PM Shawn L via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org> wrote:

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> Honestly, most carriers I've talked to are fed up as well, and just want
> to find a way to make it stop.  As some one said, it's exactly like BCP38
> ---  the carriers that care keep their clients from spoofing caller id,
> etc.  The ones that don't make everyone else look bad.
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Some carriers have a free scam call block feature

https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/scam-block.htm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf at dessus.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:04pm
> To: "nanog at nanog.org" <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: RE: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?
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> Why would the carriers want to do anything? They are making money from
> call termination fees.
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> The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says
> a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org] On Behalf Of Sean
> >Pedersen
> >Sent: Wednesday, 4 April, 2018 08:45
> >To: nanog at nanog.org
> >Subject: RE: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?
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> >Yep. Add it to the list of IRS scams, fake arrest warrants, credit
> >repair, free vacations, etc. The rate of calls has increased
> >dramatically in the past year, especially with the "neighborhood
> >scam" where they spoof their CLID to a local area code and prefix +
> >0000 through 9999 and blast you with calls, trying to trick you into
> >thinking it's someone local and thus important or legitimate.
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> >I have a second phone I use for work and on-call, so that goes on DND
> >from 6PM to 6AM with a VIP list of people/numbers that can ring
> >through. No problems there, and somehow that number isn't (yet) on
> >anyone's list, so I don't get many calls.
> >
> >On my personal cell, I started to use an app called Hiya that has
> >been pretty successful. It's available for both iPhone and Android.
> >It powers a lot of the carrier-specific apps like AT&T Call Protect,
> >but unlike them, it doesn't suck. It's a giant database of reports
> >that rate calling numbers and classify them as fraud, scam,
> >neighborhood spoofing, etc. and you can flag them or route them right
> >to voicemail. The only time it doesn’t work is when it hasn't updated
> >its list in a little while and a few sneak through. They just
> >realized a premium version that added some features. I haven't
> >explored it yet.
> >
> >Went from about 20 calls a week to almost nothing.
> >
> >Carriers seem to be either uncapable or unwilling to address the
> >issue other than the occasional lip-service reply about "taking
> >customer's $variable seriously."
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org] On Behalf Of William
> >Herrin
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 3:32 PM
> >To: nanog at nanog.org
> >Subject: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?
> >
> >Howdy.
> >
> >Have any of you started to get AI robocalls? I've had a couple of
> >calls recently where I get the connect silence of a predictive dialer
> >followed by a woman speaking with call center background noise. She
> >gives her name and asks how I'm doing. The first time it happened it
> >seemed off for reasons I can't quite articulate, so I asked: "Are you
> >a robot or a person?" She responded "yes" and then launched in to a
> >sales pitch. The next time I asked, "where can I direct your call?"
> >She responded "that's good" and launched in to her pitch.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bill Herrin
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> >William Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us
> >Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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