RE: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?

Shawn L shawnl at up.net
Wed Apr 4 23:17:40 UTC 2018


Honestly, most carriers I've talked to are fed up as well, and just want to find a way to make it stop.  As some one said, it's exactly like BCP38 ---  the carriers that care keep their clients from spoofing caller id, etc.  The ones that don't make everyone else look bad.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf at dessus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:04pm
To: "nanog at nanog.org" <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: RE: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?



Why would the carriers want to do anything? They are making money from call termination fees.


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>-----Original Message-----
>From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org] On Behalf Of Sean
>Pedersen
>Sent: Wednesday, 4 April, 2018 08:45
>To: nanog at nanog.org
>Subject: RE: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?
>
>Yep. Add it to the list of IRS scams, fake arrest warrants, credit
>repair, free vacations, etc. The rate of calls has increased
>dramatically in the past year, especially with the "neighborhood
>scam" where they spoof their CLID to a local area code and prefix +
>0000 through 9999 and blast you with calls, trying to trick you into
>thinking it's someone local and thus important or legitimate.
>
>I have a second phone I use for work and on-call, so that goes on DND
>from 6PM to 6AM with a VIP list of people/numbers that can ring
>through. No problems there, and somehow that number isn't (yet) on
>anyone's list, so I don't get many calls.
>
>On my personal cell, I started to use an app called Hiya that has
>been pretty successful. It's available for both iPhone and Android.
>It powers a lot of the carrier-specific apps like AT&T Call Protect,
>but unlike them, it doesn't suck. It's a giant database of reports
>that rate calling numbers and classify them as fraud, scam,
>neighborhood spoofing, etc. and you can flag them or route them right
>to voicemail. The only time it doesn’t work is when it hasn't updated
>its list in a little while and a few sneak through. They just
>realized a premium version that added some features. I haven't
>explored it yet.
>
>Went from about 20 calls a week to almost nothing.
>
>Carriers seem to be either uncapable or unwilling to address the
>issue other than the occasional lip-service reply about "taking
>customer's $variable seriously."
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org] On Behalf Of William
>Herrin
>Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 3:32 PM
>To: nanog at nanog.org
>Subject: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?
>
>Howdy.
>
>Have any of you started to get AI robocalls? I've had a couple of
>calls recently where I get the connect silence of a predictive dialer
>followed by a woman speaking with call center background noise. She
>gives her name and asks how I'm doing. The first time it happened it
>seemed off for reasons I can't quite articulate, so I asked: "Are you
>a robot or a person?" She responded "yes" and then launched in to a
>sales pitch. The next time I asked, "where can I direct your call?"
>She responded "that's good" and launched in to her pitch.
>
>Regards,
>Bill Herrin
>
>
>--
>William Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us
>Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>






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