DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

Tue Sep 26 22:05:28 UTC 2017

Isn't this the topic area that the home networking working group was
supposed to resolve?

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Lee Howard <lee at asgard.org> wrote:
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> On 9/23/17, 1:51 AM, "nanog-bounces at nanog.org on behalf of
> valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu" <nanog-bounces at nanog.org on behalf of
> valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu> wrote:
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>>On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 08:47:32 +1000, Mark Andrews said:
>>> You know CPE devices are routers.  They can tell you what routes
>>> DHCP has given them.  That annoucement could be cryptographically
>>> authenticated.
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>>This is, of course, a lot easier if the CPE already has onboard the needed
>>software to do that, or you have the ability to push it out.
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> Right. How many residential market gateways support any routing protocol
> at all? How many support RIPv2? How many support RIPng. Being routers does
> not mean they support any dynamic routing protocol. If I were an ISP, I
> would be very skeptical of the return on adding routing support to every
> gateway I supported, plus an RPKI.
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>>Is anybody from Comcast or other eyeball network willing to say (even
>>roughly)
>>what percent of CPE is gear they supply, versus gear that people get at
>>Best
>>Buy or Walmart and just plug in, versus (if they can identify it) gear
>>that's
>>been reflashed by clued customers?
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> It varies 0-100% based on network, year, and the mood of whoever makes the
> decision about how to handle CPE. Some ISPs provide a gateway to all of
> their customers, and some of those customers then put them into bridged
> mode. (I think Vz FiOS, for instance, always comes with a gateway). Some
> provide a gateway for free, which may be worth much more or less than you
> paid for it, depending on the philosophy of the ISP. Some assume you want
> a gateway and charge you several dollars a month for it.
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> Lee
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