Puerto Rico: Lack of electricity threatens telephone and internet services

Wayne Bouchard web at typo.org
Thu Oct 19 22:18:06 CST 2017

Well, the problem as I understand it is that the infrastructure was
not all that great to begin with. Much of it was damaged in the first
storm and when this second one came through, what remained basically
disappeared. That's why they say that the only thing you can do is
start from the middle and slowly extend the tentacles outward. You're
almost building the territory from scratch. Assuming that the reports
of theft, misapproproation, and other nefarious occurences are
correct, that certainly does not help matters.

Still, this situation ought to make everyone sit up and think about
their own DR capability.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 03:11:37PM -0700, Jeff Shultz wrote:
> It does make you wonder about the electrical infrastructure of the island,
> and how much work is being done to repair it. With the Texas and Florida
> hurricanes you saw fleets of electrical service vehicles (boom trucks and
> the like) from other power companies with joint agreements waiting to
> deploy into the disaster area as soon as it was safe to do so.
> With PR.... well, it's not like you can drive to the island, much less
> (apparently) around on it. Getting those vehicles and people in, assuming
> joint agreements with off island power companies existed in the first
> place, would be a case of scheduling and determining priorities.
> And for those crying that the US Federal Gov't ought to do it - where do
> you think they're going to find the people? It's not like they have armies
> of infrastructure level electricians just sitting around playing cards
> until needed for an emergency - these are the sort of people who, by and
> large, are already working at jobs - where they are needed as well.
> When it comes to infrastructure it seems like PR has been knocked back to
> the "tools to make tools" stage - they need to build the infrastructure to
> rebuild their infrastructure, which was apparently in no great shape to
> begin with.
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <
> jfmezei_nanog at vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > On 2017-10-19 03:00, Sean Donelan wrote:
> >
> > > not intended for long-term, continuous use.  The generators will need
> > > maintenance and likely experience unscheduled failures the longer they're
> > > used.
> >
> > Permanent duty diesel generators exist.  Many northern communities in
> > Canada run on them as their 7/24 power source.
> >
> > It *shouldn't* have taken long after Maria for locals to know how much
> > damage there had been to electrical grid and that if it's gonna take
> > months to fix, you're gonna need constant duty generators.
> >
> > What isn't clear to me is whether everything still depends on FEMA/army
> > help, or whether business is able to function autonomously and get their
> > own generators without the army confiscating them to be delieved to a
> > hospital instead.
> >
> > And if you're a telco who is deprived of revenues because almost all
> > your customers are without power, do you spend your own money and effort
> > to try to get a permanent duty diesel generator to maintain your central
> > office, or do you wait for government to install one for you ?
> >
> > It is one thing to be benevolent and wanting to have your network
> > backbone up, but financial realities of the cost of running a business
> > without revenues will eventually hit you when the disaster lasts for
> > months instead of days.
> >
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Wayne Bouchard
web at typo.org
Network Dude

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