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Thu Oct 19 17:46:00 UTC 2017

     Well,

     We could also break that 200yo+ paradigm of having a paywall for 
what should pretty much be free.

         Like that media supply chain still forcing licensing per country...

     And yes $35USD can be a lot of money for people that are hungry for 
both food and knowledge.

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On 10/19/17 12:07, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:57 AM, João Butzke <lista-gter at tbonet.net.br>
> wrote:
>
>> it worked here in Brazil against whatsapp.
>>
>>
> there are lots of cases of this sort of tomfoolery "working"... in part or
> in whole.
> Lee's point is it's dumb to offload this problem on every ISP in the
> jurisdiction, AND it's also not going to really fix the problem if the
> application is accessible via 'vpn' services (tor, real-vpns, etc).
>
> it's just sort of dumb all the way around :(
>
>
>> Em 19/10/2017 13:49, Lee Howard escreveu:
>>
>>>
>>> On 10/17/17, 5:33 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Christopher Morrow"
>>> <nanog-bounces at nanog.org on behalf of morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> you know, the Sci-Hub folk could fix this themselves... with some
>>>> authentication requirements... and probably by just unplugging from the
>>>> intertubes?
>>>>
>>> "Sci-Hub’s founder, has previously told The Scientist the site plans to
>>> ignore the lawsuit.” How would Sci-Hub consider this a “fix”?
>>>
>>> What enforcement mechanism would the Court have against Sci-Hub?
>>>
>>> The idea of making third parties (ISPs) incur costs (updating ACLs or
>>> poisoning DNS) to enforce the order is pretty bad, and doesn’t stop Tor
>>> access. Sorry I didn’t have a chance to file an amicus before the ruling
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Robert Mathews (OSIA)
>>>> <mathews at hawaii.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Judge Recommends Ruling to Block Internet Access to Sci-Hub
>>>>> The American Chemical Society seeks a broad order that includes millions
>>>>> of dollars in damages and demands action from Internet service providers
>>>>> and search engines.
>>>>> By Diana Kwon | October 4, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50563/
>>>>> title/Judge-Recommends-Ruling-to-Block-Internet-Access-to-Sci-Hub/
>>>>> http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50361/
>>>>> title/Publishers--Legal-Action-Advances-Against-Sci-Hub/
>>>>>
>>>>>