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Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at gmail.com
Thu Oct 19 16:07:00 CST 2017


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:57 AM, João Butzke <lista-gter at tbonet.net.br>
wrote:

> it worked here in Brazil against whatsapp.
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there are lots of cases of this sort of tomfoolery "working"... in part or
in whole.
Lee's point is it's dumb to offload this problem on every ISP in the
jurisdiction, AND it's also not going to really fix the problem if the
application is accessible via 'vpn' services (tor, real-vpns, etc).

it's just sort of dumb all the way around :(


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> Em 19/10/2017 13:49, Lee Howard escreveu:
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>> On 10/17/17, 5:33 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Christopher Morrow"
>> <nanog-bounces at nanog.org on behalf of morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> you know, the Sci-Hub folk could fix this themselves... with some
>>> authentication requirements... and probably by just unplugging from the
>>> intertubes?
>>>
>> "Sci-Hub’s founder, has previously told The Scientist the site plans to
>> ignore the lawsuit.” How would Sci-Hub consider this a “fix”?
>>
>> What enforcement mechanism would the Court have against Sci-Hub?
>>
>> The idea of making third parties (ISPs) incur costs (updating ACLs or
>> poisoning DNS) to enforce the order is pretty bad, and doesn’t stop Tor
>> access. Sorry I didn’t have a chance to file an amicus before the ruling
>> tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Robert Mathews (OSIA)
>>> <mathews at hawaii.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Judge Recommends Ruling to Block Internet Access to Sci-Hub
>>>> The American Chemical Society seeks a broad order that includes millions
>>>> of dollars in damages and demands action from Internet service providers
>>>> and search engines.
>>>> By Diana Kwon | October 4, 2017
>>>>
>>>> http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50563/
>>>> title/Judge-Recommends-Ruling-to-Block-Internet-Access-to-Sci-Hub/
>>>> http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50361/
>>>> title/Publishers--Legal-Action-Advances-Against-Sci-Hub/
>>>>
>>>>
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