replacing compromised biometric authenticators

Ken Chase math at
Wed Oct 11 21:04:08 CST 2017

(forking the thread here..)

Biometrics are still the new hotness out in North America. Cologix whom I deal
with in Canada has a dozen and a half odd POPs in canada/usa and I think has
fingerprinting at all sites.

If the current best operating practice is to avoid biometrics, why are they
still in use out here? Has anyone gotten the message? Is anyone in North America
ripping them out yet?

Other factors include your country's privacy regulations for storing
irreplaceable personal information, the burden of which might not be worth
the security 'benefit'.


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 04:46:02PM -0400, William Herrin said:
  >On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:32 PM, J??rg Kost <jk at> wrote:
  >> Do you guys still at least have biometric access control devices at your
  >> Level3 dc? They even removed this things at our site, because there is no
  >> budget for a successor for the failing unit. And to be consistent, they
  >> event want to remove all biometric access devices at least across Germany.
  >Hi  J??rg,
  >IMO, biometric was a gimmick in the first place and a bad idea when
  >carefully considered. All authenticators can be compromised. Hence, all
  >authenticators must be replaceable following a compromise. If one of your
  >DCs' palm vein databases is lost, what's your plan for replacing that hand?
  >Bill Herrin
  >William Herrin ................ herrin at  bill at
  >Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <>

Ken Chase - math at Guelph Canada

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