Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

Jacques Latour Jacques.Latour at
Thu Nov 23 16:49:09 UTC 2017

ISP: Anybody offering services over the internet, including Transit Providers.
Transit Provider:  An internet service "transit" where the whole Internet can reach your advertised network addresses.



-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at] On Behalf Of Miles Fidelman
Sent: November 22, 2017 11:29 PM
To: Luke Guillory <lguillory at>
Cc: nanog at
Subject: Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

Well yes, but functionally, how is IP transport sufficiently different 
to make it an "information service" rather than a "telecommunications 
service?"  At least that's the argument I'd make against reclassifying 
access services.


On 11/22/17 9:24 PM, Luke Guillory wrote:
> Those normally come with ASRs and a tariff from the regulated side of 
> things. At least from my experience anyway.
> Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 22, 2017, at 10:08 PM, Miles Fidelman 
> <mfidelman at <mailto:mfidelman at>> wrote:
>> On 11/22/17 2:50 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <
>>> jfmezei_nanog at <mailto:jfmezei_nanog at>> wrote:
>>>> The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" 
>>>> as an
>>>> information service instead of Telecommunications Service. This
>>>> prombpted the following question which isn't about the FCC action 
>>>> per say.
>>>> This is about how does one define Transit provider vs ISP ?
>> For that matter, how does one distinguish between someone delivering 
>> IP packets, vs. someone offering frame relay, or ATM - which are 
>> clearly telecom services?
>> Miles Fidelman
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