Broadcast television in an IP world

Mike Hammett nanog at ics-il.net
Tue Nov 21 19:08:35 CST 2017


I'm not doubting OTT is popular. There's just an awful lot of people that have zero interest (or ability) to use OTT. They will continue to consume entertainment linearly, regardless of the mechanism used to deliver it. 


People in NANOG often forget that most people aren't like us. Heck, most people in NANOG forget that not every network is like their network. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

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From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.norddahl at gmail.com> 
To: nanog at nanog.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 12:46:43 PM 
Subject: Re: Broadcast television in an IP world 

I am not going to guess on a timeframe. I would like to point out that 
the youth ignore TV. They no longer have TVs on their rooms. It is all 
on smartphones or tablets these days. Even with the family in a living 
room, everyone might be sitting with their own device doing their own thing. 

We have a significant share of the customers that have no other TV than 
OTT streaming. Myself included. Here (Denmark) almost all TV channels 
are available as OTT streaming. The free national broadcast TV is also 
available for streaming (for free). 

With an Apple TV you can do all the same things that you can do with 
OTA, cable or satellite. Cheaper (*) and more convenient too. Far from 
everyone has discovered this yet, but since we cater to people that are 
cable cutters, a larger than usual share of our customers is doing 
exactly this. 

(*) I believe the OTT solutions are cheaper as long you do not want a 
lot of sport programming. If you do want sport I believe it is more 
expensive but you also have more options and content available. 

Regards, 

Baldur 


Den 21/11/2017 kl. 17.58 skrev Mike Hammett: 
> of the TV they use... through you. That doesn't count OTA, cable, satellite, etc. 
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> It won't change significantly any time soon. I know things are changing, but it'll still take five or ten years for those changes to significantly change traffic patterns. 
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> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
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> Midwest-IX 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.norddahl at gmail.com> 
> To: nanog at nanog.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 10:52:09 AM 
> Subject: Re: Broadcast television in an IP world 
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> Den 21. nov. 2017 16.20 skrev "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net>: 
> 
> Unicasting what everyone watches live on a random evening would use 
> significantly more bandwidth than Game of Thrones or whatever OTT drop. 
> Magnitudes more. It wouldn't even be in the same ballpark. 
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> I agree as of this moment however that will change. Also note that our 
> customers do 100% of their TV as unicast OTT because that is the only thing 
> we offer. This does not cause nearly as much problems as you would expect. 
> 




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