Both. Either. Take your pick Ed Pers From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 8:06 PM Subject: Re: mailops https breakage To: nanog at nanog.org On 6/20/17 16:57, Keith Medcalf wrote: > How else would one maintain government control over free encryption certificates? So Let's Encrypt is run by the Illuminati now? Or is it Freemasons? It's hard to keep track.