Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

Mel Beckman mel at beckman.org
Tue Jun 13 17:47:23 CST 2017


That still leaves the question: how to you invoke this financial punishment? Prohibit NANOG members from buying their products?

-mel via cell

> On Jun 13, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk at gsp.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 03:31:46PM +0000, Mel Beckman wrote:
>> Sometimes they're ignorant and don't realize they're spamming.
> 
> That excuse stopped being viable sometime in the last century.  They know
> exactly what they're doing, they're just counting on the prospective
> gains to outweigh the prospective losses.  If they're right, then the
> spamming will not only continue, it will increase.  (As we've seen:
> over and over and over again.)  That's because they don't care about
> being professional or responsible or ethical: they only care about profits.
> 
> So the choice is clear: either make it plain to such "people" (if I
> may dignify sociopathic filth with that term) that this is absolutely
> unacceptable and that it will have serious, immediate, ongoing negative
> financial consequences, or do nothing while the problem escalates
> indefinitely.
> 
>    If you give people the means to hurt you, and they do it, and
>    you take no action except to continue giving them the means to
>    hurt you, and they take no action except to keep hurting you,
>    then one of the ways you can describe the situation is "it isn't
>    scaling well".
>        --- Paul Vixie, on NANOG
> 
> ---rsk


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