gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders

Ken Chase math at sizone.org
Fri Feb 17 16:07:11 UTC 2017


Just meant it as a parallel operational example. Both situations, while legally
distinct, present the same operational issues. 

Purposely breaking things - and then being required to keep the breakage secret -
is going to mess up a whole lot of things. (How does Chinese operators handle this?)

Additionally the snooping is an issue, though I can't imagine anyone depends on
an IX for maintaining secrecy at a contract level :/ Today's realities.

/kc


On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:03:00AM -0600, Mike Hammett said:
  >I'm not sure Cogent is on any IXes? 
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  >Mike Hammett 
  >Intelligent Computing Solutions 
  >http://www.ics-il.com 
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  >Midwest-IX 
  >http://www.midwest-ix.com 
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  >----- Original Message -----
  >
  >From: "Ken Chase" <math at sizone.org> 
  >To: nanog at nanog.org 
  >Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 9:56:23 AM 
  >Subject: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders 
  >
  >And when you go to figure out why that IP wont ping through Cogent on 
  >your exchange, and start troubleshooting but can't get any answers 
  >as to why things are bust... 
  >
  >[ Clearly now an operational issue for NANOG. ] 
  >
  >Purposely breaking routing and not being able to talk about why is going to 
  >set many orgs at odds with their basic operational charters. I expect that 
  >a paid service will work when it's provided, including help debugging their end. 
  >
  >This is slightly different from a service provider, ostensibly you can 
  >go elsewhere to get service - but when you are a member of a nonprofit *IX 
  >(as we are with TorIX), things get a lot more complex. 
  >
  >I imagine contract lawyers are going to be all over this. 
  >
  >https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/17/linx_snoopers_charger_gagging_order/ 
  >
  >(their typo in the url) 
  >

/kc 
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Ken Chase - math at sizone.org Guelph/Toronto Canada 




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