Free access to measurement network

Mike Hammett nanog at
Mon Dec 18 16:43:23 CST 2017

There's nothing stopping you from using CLEC status to build in the ROW of an RLEC area. 

Fixed wireless is the most cost effective way to deploy in rural environments, other than at some point ultra rural, satellite takes over. That's kinda what WISPs have been doing for 20 years. 

So don't own cable. Build fiber. There's nothing stopping you from doing that. 

If you're going CLEC and using the ILEC's copper, go bigger. Most of the big ILECs are still rolling with sub 10 megabit speeds. I know some CLECs doing ADSL2+, VDSL, etc. Not as wide-reaching, no, but it's something and generates revenue while you build your own plant. 

Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Steve Naslund" <SNaslund at> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog at> 
Cc: nanog at 
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:39:43 AM 
Subject: RE: Free access to measurement network 

Not if you are in an RLEC controlled territory you can't. They are protected monopolies by definition. You could do fixed wireless but not real cost effective to deploy in low density rural environments. Especially when there is a lack of cellular infrastructure to piggyback the infrastructure on. 

Anyone that has been a CLEC knows that the ILEC have squeezed the CLECs out of the wireline space pretty effectively. It is nearly impossible to compete with the already amortized ILEC wireline networks and you can't do your own cable infrastructure without a city franchise in most areas. 

Steven Naslund 
Chicago IL 

>-----Original Message----- 
>From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
>Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:28 AM 
>Cc: nanog at 
>Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network 
>Anyone can roll their own wireline at the maximum regulatory effort of becoming a CLEC and construction permits. Some jurisdictions will let you in without this, but if you have the former, they must allow you the same access as the >ILEC. 
>Otherwise, they can do fixed wireless. 
>Mike Hammett 
>Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>Midwest Internet Exchange 
>The Brothers WISP 

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