Bell outage

Fri Aug 4 20:54:45 UTC 2017

Well, imagine what happens when you have a body of water like Lake Ontario separating the key hubs on each side of the border, 151 Front Street and 350 Main Street. The fiber is probably stacked parallel around the lake and at certain points is collapsed into one right of way.

- R.

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> on behalf of Alain Hebert <ahebert at pubnix.net>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 10:34 PM
To: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: Bell outage

     Well,

     We have a case where 2 paths, between 151 front to somewhere in
Markham, ended up overlapping 3 times for about 300m total :(

     And to cap the whole thing off...  Enter the building thru the same
conduit.

     You pretty much need to be onsite supervising the whole thing up.

     And yes their files have the circuits going thru a home, what looks
like a gas station, an electrical grids, etc =D.  Pretty impressive.

     PS: As rodent, you mean the punks that fire bomb "that" conduit
under "that" bridge, a few years back?

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On 08/04/17 15:07, Ken Chase wrote:
> And can be hard to know without serious dilligence - two of our upstreams
> happened to go through the same 360 networks conduit in montreal that "saw
> significant rodent activity". Both were down for 6 hours. A couple customers
> had some custom apps that relied on the two, each as redundancy to the other.
>
> That didnt work out.
>
> Getting salesdroids to give you the info can be very hard though, and even
> tech dept's may not know what secondary providers their fibres run through or
> where, readily.
>
> /kc
>
> On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 02:57:22PM -0400, Alain Hebert said:
>    >    Well,
>    >
>    >    Saying they provided you with geographically diverse circuits versus
>    >actually doing it, happen way too often.
>    >
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