Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey

Mike Hammett nanog at
Tue Sep 27 19:51:40 UTC 2016

We can't teach other network operators the value of IPv6. Good luck teaching a consumer anything other than cat videos (and now recipes - unrelated to the former). 

Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Brielle Bruns" <bruns at> 
To: nanog at 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:46:39 AM 
Subject: Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey 

On 9/27/16 9:35 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote: 
> On 27 Sep 2016, at 21:48, Brielle Bruns wrote: 
>> You start cutting off users or putting them into a walled garden until 
>> they fix their machines, and they will start caring. 
> It's important to keep in mind that in the not-so-distant future, their 
> 'machines' will include every article of clothing they own, every can of 
> soda in their refrigerator, ever major (and many minor) components of 
> their automobiles, every blade in their windowshades, etc. 

I don't see how this is a problem exactly? If people want to buy 
devices that connect to their home network, they need to be aware of 
what these devices can do, and it is their responsibility. 

Better to teach them _now_ rather then later. 

If Timmy Numbnuts doesn't understand that plugging in a random device he 
found at Goodwill to his network could potentially carry liabilities, 
then he will keep doing it. 

I point to the current trend of parents watching and smiling, doing 
nothing as their kids destroy people's stores and restaurants. ISPs are 
literally doing the exact same thing when it comes to coddling their 

Brielle Bruns 
The Summit Open Source Development Group / 

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