charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS852 for IP Transit?)

Ryan, Spencer sryan at
Mon Sep 26 14:57:35 UTC 2016

I've used HE's tunnelbroker (BGP) a few times to get our ARIN space to a site while waiting on a local carrier to turn up v6, get the proper LOA, etc.

I've received better service from the NOC there for a service I didn't pay for than I have from any ISP I've ever given money. They are doing a great job over there. A LOA change (/48-->/40 le 48) took about an hour.

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at> on behalf of Ken Chase <math at>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:51:51 AM
To: Jason Lixfeld
Subject: Re: charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS852 for IP Transit?)

Followup: we did the quote/PO/sign-the-order dance. That took about 3-4 days
not including our side's lag (which was not insignificant, Im not the guy with
the pen). But now it's gone to provisioning and will be a standard *5 days*.

Cogent will do this in about 1-6 hours if you provide the LOA's with the request.
So will HE. And many others.


On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:28:50PM -0400, Ken Chase said:
  >I feel this can be a public topic:
  >Rogers just charged us that for an update (one update, multiple entries).
  >We had to go through their quotation machinery too, took like 4-5 days. Additional
  >time was wasted because we contacted their tech dept directly at the start. (which
  >is what I do for all my other upstreams...)
  >Kinda brutal.
  >Cogent and HE nor NAC or Yipes or Tata ever did that to us.
  >Nickle and diming -- why, cuz transit is a cheap commodity now, gotta make the
  >cash somewhere?
  >That said Cogent offered us a static /26 along side our BGP years ago then warned
  >us it'd be $50/mo or something for that # of ips going forward. We didnt need it
  >so dispensed with it.
  >On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:07:01PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld said:
  >  >If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, I???d be interested in hearing from you.
  >  >
  >  >I???d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 for each BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we???re the only ones???
  >  >
  >  >Thanks in advance!
  >Ken Chase - math at Toronto Canada

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