charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS852 for IP Transit?)

joel jaeggli joelja at
Thu Sep 15 18:48:05 UTC 2016

On 9/15/16 11:28 AM, Ken Chase wrote:
> I feel this can be a public topic:
> Rogers just charged us that for an update (one update, multiple entries).
> We had to go through their quotation machinery too, took like 4-5 days. Additional
> time was wasted because we contacted their tech dept directly at the start. (which
> is what I do for all my other upstreams...)
> Kinda brutal.
Coordination problems are a point of high friction and cost for low
margin products. I generally prefer that my providers be able to
generate prefix filters on the basis of route objects, If it's not part
of their service offering; how costs are assigned for service requests
is going to be part of contract negotiions.


> Cogent and HE nor NAC or Yipes or Tata ever did that to us.
> Nickle and diming -- why, cuz transit is a cheap commodity now, gotta make the
> cash somewhere?
> That said Cogent offered us a static /26 along side our BGP years ago then warned
> us it'd be $50/mo or something for that # of ips going forward. We didnt need it
> so dispensed with it.
> /kc
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:07:01PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld said:
>   >If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, I???d be interested in hearing from you.
>   >
>   >I???d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 for each BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we???re the only ones???
>   >
>   >Thanks in advance!

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