Chinese root CA issues rogue/fake certificates

Matt Palmer mpalmer at
Thu Sep 1 10:10:17 UTC 2016

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:33:18PM -0700, George William Herbert wrote:
> > On Aug 31, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Matt Palmer <mpalmer at> wrote:
> > there's just waaaay too many sites using WoSign (and StartCom) for the
> > CAs' roots to just be pulled.  Sad, but true.
> Not even.  Pull away.

Not going to happen.  Feel free to argue otherwise in the appropriate
venues, but you're tilting at windmills, IMO.

> > I'd be surprised if most business continuity people could even name their
> > cert provider, and most probably don't even know how certs come to exist or
> > that they *can* be made useless on a wide scale by the actions of,
> > seemingly, an unrelated third party.
> Not in my neck of the woods.  If you have a drought of good ones in your
> area my consulting company calls that an opportunity...

How the hell do you get from "the world does not work that way" to "please
pitch me your consulting services"?

- Matt

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