Spitballing IoT Security

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Wed Oct 26 18:53:51 UTC 2016

Exactly, I was arguing exactly the same with some folks this week during the RIPE meeting.

The same way that certifications are needed to avoid radio interferences, etc., and if you don’t pass those certifications, you can’t sell the products in some countries (or regions in case of EU for example), authorities should make sure that those certifications have a broader scope, including security and probably some other features to ensure that in case something is discovered in the future, they can be updated.

Yes, that means cost, but a few thousand dollars of certification price increase, among thousands of millions of devices of the same model being manufactured, means a few cents for each unit.

Even if we speak about 1 dollar per each product being sold, it is much cheaper than the cost of not doing it and paying for damages, human resources, etc., when there is a security breach.


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De: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> en nombre de Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org>
Organización: United Federation of Planets
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Fecha: miércoles, 26 de octubre de 2016, 19:19
Para: <nanog at nanog.org>
Asunto: Re: Spitballing IoT Security

    In a message written on Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 08:06:34AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
    > The makers of IoT devices are falling all over themselves to rush products
    > to market as quickly as possible in order to maximize their profits.  They
    > have no time for security.  They don't concern themselves with privacy
    > implications.  They don't run networks so they don't care about the impact
    > their devices may have on them.  They don't care about liability: many of
    > them are effectively immune because suing them would mean trans-national
    > litigation, which is tedious and expensive.  (And even if they lost:
    > they'd dissolve and reconstitute as another company the next day.)
    > They don't even care about each other -- I'm pretty sure we're rapidly
    > approaching the point where toasters will be used to attack garage door
    > openers and washing machines.
    You are correct.
    I believe the answer is to have some sort of test scheme (UL
    Labratories?) for basic security and updateability.  Then federal
    legislation is passed requiring any product being imported into the
    country to be certified, or it is refused.
    Now when they rush to market and don't get certified they get $0
    and go out of business.  Products are stopped at the boader, every
    shipment is reviewed by authorities, and there is no cross boarder
    suing issue.
    Really it's product safety 101.  UL, the CPSC, NHTSA, DOT and a
    host of others have regulations that if you want to import a product
    for sale it must be safe.  It's not a new or novel concept, pretty
    much every country has some scheme like it.
    Leo Bicknell - bicknell at ufp.org
    PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/

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