Dyn DDoS this AM?

Wayne Bouchard web at typo.org
Mon Oct 24 20:23:39 UTC 2016


See, that's the thing...

The key to victory here is to defeat the robots. Take away the
anonymity of proxies and trojan amplifiers and enforcement gets a lot
easier. Sadly, this war doesn't seem likely to be won anytime soon.
Especially since there are State entities using (and even deploying) a
number of these systems for use against other States and businesses
and/or financial mechanisms. So rather than help the community solve
the problem (for their own good, no less!), it is in their interests
to perpetuate it.

-Wayne

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 05:37:08PM -0400, Alain Hebert wrote:
>     Just a FYI,
> 
>     That "horrific trend" has been happening since some techie got
> dissed on an IRC channel over 20 years ago.
> 
>     He used a bunch of hosted putters to ICMP flood the IRC server.
> 
>     Whatever the community is behind, until the carriers decide to wise
> up this will keep happening, that is without talking about the
> industries being developed around DDoSes events.
> 
>     Enjoy your weekend. ( I ain't on call anymore anyway =D )
> 
> -----
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> 
> On 10/21/16 11:52, Brian Davies via NANOG wrote:
> > +1!
> >
> > Well said, Patrick.
> >
> > B
> >
> > On Friday, October 21, 2016, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick at ianai.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I cannot give additional info other than what???s been on ???public media???.
> >>
> >> However, I would very much like to say that this is a horrific trend on
> >> the Internet. The idea that someone can mention a DDoS then get DDoS???ed Can
> >> Not Stand. See Krebs??? on the Democratization of Censorship. See lots of
> >> other things.
> >>
> >> To Dyn and everyone else being attacked:
> >> The community is behind you. There are problems, but if we stick together,
> >> we can beat these miscreants.
> >>
> >> To the miscreants:
> >> You will not succeed. Search "churchill on the beaches???. It???s a bit
> >> melodramatic, but it???s how I feel at this moment.
> >>
> >> To the rest of the community:
> >> If you can help, please do. I know a lot of you are thinking ???what can I
> >> do?" There is a lot you can do. BCP38 & BCP84 instantly come to mind. Sure,
> >> that doesn???t help Mirai, but it still helps. There are many other things
> >> you can do as well.
> >>
> >> But a lot of it is just willingness to help. When someone asks you to help
> >> trace an attack, do not let the request sit for a while. Damage is being
> >> done. Help your neighbor. When someone???s house is burning, your current
> >> project, your lunch break, whatever else you are doing is almost certainly
> >> less important. If we stick together and help each other, we can - we WILL
> >> - win this war. If we are apathetic, we have already lost.
> >>
> >>
> >> OK, enough motivational speaking for today. But take this to heart. Our
> >> biggest problem is people thinking they cannot or do not want to help.
> >>
> >> --
> >> TTFN,
> >> patrick
> >>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com
> >> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>> Does anyone have any additional details? Seems to be over now, but I'm
> >> very
> >>> curious about the specifics of such a highly impactful attack (and it's
> >>> timing following NANOG 68)...
> >>>
> >>> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/ddos-on-dyn-impacts-
> >> twitter-spotify-reddit/
> >>> --
> >>> @ChrisGrundemann
> >>> http://chrisgrundemann.com
> >>

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Wayne Bouchard
web at typo.org
Network Dude
http://www.typo.org/~web/


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