Any ISPs using AS852 for IP Transit?

Paul Stewart paul at paulstewart.org
Mon Oct 3 08:04:38 UTC 2016


To confirm AS852 and AS577 don’t charge $dayjob for prefix changes …. they both do them manually though which is a pain :(


> On Sep 15, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Theodore Baschak <theodore at ciscodude.net> wrote:
> 
> I don't think this is standard across the board with Telus.
> 
> I've also heard (rumours?) of a similar $250 prefix change free associated with Shaw/AS6327 changes before, and also a much larger $750 change prefix change fee with BELL-GT/AS6539, but the customers I know who use them definitely don't get charged these types of fees.
> 
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> Theodore Baschak - AS395089 - Hextet Systems
> https://ciscodude.net/ - https://hextet.systems/
> http://mbix.ca/
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog at lixfeld.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Sure.  My question was whether every TELUS BGP customer was being charged for these too, or if I’m the only one.  If I’m the only one, then I’m obviously caught in some administrative black hole there that I would like to get myself out of.  This is something that has only started happening in the last 6 months or so.  Prior to that, we were never charged by them for these requests.  Unfortunately, my sales rep has been less than helpful in trying to understand what changed to make us susceptible to these new charges.
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>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo at slabnet.com> wrote:
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>>> So, to be blunt, I would cast this as their charging you NRC for manual work because of their failure to automate this.
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>>> On Thu 2016-Sep-15 15:09:33 -0400, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog at lixfeld.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Last time I asked, that wasn’t something that they had implemented, and had no definite plans to do so within any timeframe that was on their radar.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Steven Schecter <schecter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I question their motivation here and would follow up by asking if they support filtering by IRRdb and are merely trying to encourage the practice?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> /Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog at lixfeld.ca> wrote:
>>>>> If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, I’d be interested in hearing from you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 for each BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we’re the only ones…
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Steven J. Schecter
>>>>> (m) 917.676.1646
>>>> 
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