NIST NTP servers

Mel Beckman mel at
Thu May 12 18:09:52 UTC 2016

The WWV signal is still accurate within a few milliseconds. Light is fast. Really fast.


> On May 12, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei <jfmezei_nanog at> wrote:
> On 2016-05-11 10:30, Mel Beckman wrote:
>> Read deeper into the thread and you'll find where I sourced inexpensive RF-based NTP servers using CDMA, GSM, and even WWV. 
> For shortwave, you would need to calculate propagation delay between
> transmitter and receiver. (does signal reach via line of sight, bounce
> against ionosphere ?).
> Since CDMA is dead outside the USA and drying in USA, I wouldn't rely on
> that.  If GSM towers rely on a GPS receiver on the tower and those
> towers are near enough to your location (< 30km), then chances are that
> blocked GPS signals at your location would also jam the signals at the
> GSM antenna.
> And if you are setup to be totally autonomous in case of power failures,
> you need to know whether the GSM antenna you are relying on is also on
> permanent power backup or only has autonomy of a few hours.

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