sub $500-750 CPE firewall for voip-centric application

amuse nanog-amuse at
Fri May 6 18:45:36 UTC 2016

Don't forget ponying up the fees and charges for paying the auditors -
which is why most OSS projects don't end up going through them.

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Keith Stokes <keiths at> wrote:

> I've been told by various PCI auditors that a noncommercial/FOSS firewall
> could pass as long as you have implemented the necessary controls such as
> encryption/logging/management and passing actual testing.
> --
> Keith Stokes
> > On May 6, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Mel Beckman <mel at> wrote:
> >
> > The question of code quality is always a difficult one, since in FOSS
> it’s public and often found lacking, but in private source you may never
> know. In these cases I rely on the vendor’s public statements about their
> development processes and certifications (e.g., ICSA). Commercial products
> often disclose their development processes and even run in-house security
> threat research groups that publish to the community.
> >
> > There are also outside certifications. For example,<
>> lists certifications by vendor for those that
> have passed their test regimen, and both Dell SonicWall and Fortinet
> Fortigate are shown to be current. PFSense isn’t listed, and although it is
> theoretically vetted by many users, there is no guarantee of recency or
> thoroughness of the test regimen.
> >
> > This brings up the question of whether PFSense can meet regulatory
> requirements such as PCI, HIPAA, GLBA and SOX. While these regulatory
> organizations don’t require specific overall firewall certifications, they
> do require various specific standards, such as encryption strength,
> logging, VPN timeouts, etc. I don’t know if PFsense meets these
> requirements, as they don’t say so on their site. Companies like Dell
> publish white papers on their compliance with each regulatory organization.
> >
> > -mel
> >
> >
> > On May 6, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Aris Lambrianidis <effulgence at
> <mailto:effulgence at>> wrote:
> >
> > amuse wrote:
> > One question I have is:  Is there any reason to believe that the source
> > code for Sonicwall, Cisco, etc are any better than the PFSense code?  Or
> > are we just able to see the PFSense code and make unfounded assumptions
> > that the commercial code is in better shape?
> > Perhaps not. In fact, probably not, judging by the apparent lack of
> > audit processes for say,
> > OpenSSL libraries re-used in commercial products.
> >
> > It still doesn't detract from the value  of what people are aware of, in
> > this case,
> > pfSense code quality.
> >
> > Aris
> >

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