Cogent - Google - HE Fun

Owen DeLong owen at
Thu Mar 10 17:31:00 UTC 2016

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 09:29 , William Herrin <bill at> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at> wrote:
>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 08:24 , Chris Adams <cma at> wrote:
>>> Once upon a time, Owen DeLong <owen at> said:
>>>> In fairness, however, this is because he is not Google’s customer, he
>>>> is Google’s product.
>>> False supposition; Google does actually sell services as well.  $DAYJOB
>>> pays Google for services, and has paid Cogent for network access.
>> Not my assumption… Assumption included from Bill Herrin’s message…
>>> Google, by contrast, makes no demand that Cogent pay them even though
>>> you are not paying Google for service.
> Guys, that would be an important distinction if Cogent were providing
> Dennis with free service. They're not. Regardless of what Google does
> or doesn't do, Dennis pays Cogent to connect him to the wide Internet
> which emphatically includes Google. I'm sorry I said anything at all
> about Dennis' relationship with Google because that is immaterial to
> whether Cogent is honorably fulfilling its contract with Dennis.

Which doesn’t disagree with anything I said.


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