Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed

Sat Jun 4 00:35:33 UTC 2016

I think the day that Netflix tells me to turn off IPv6 or doesn’t serve me content
because one of my routes to the internet for IPv6 is via an HE tunnel (the other
two are different tunnels, but all of my IPv4 also goes through tunnels) will be the
day I tell Netflix that I will turn them off instead.

Let’s face it folks, if we want to encourage Netflix to tell the content providers
to give up the silly geo-shit, then we have to stop patronizing channels that do
silly geo-shit.

The only real impact is to vote with your $$$ and tell the companies you are
unsubscribing from exactly why you are unsubscribing.

So far, I haven’t run into an issue where I couldn’t get what I wanted to watch
via a tunnel I was able to set up. When/If Netflix gets good enough to detect
and block my tunnel, I’ll stop using Netflix and stop paying them. I’ll also
make sure that they know why.

I’m sure if they lose enough customers for this reason, they’ll choose to do something
about it with their content providers. After all, the fewer subscribers Netflix has,
the less they pay the content providers, too.

Sure, nobody cares about my $10/month or whatever it’s up to these days, but if a
few thousand of us start walking off and it starts to look like a trend, it can
change things.

Owen

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 17:17 , Cryptographrix <cryptographrix at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Very true. Telling people to turn off IPv6 support through their customer
> service portal is completely infuriating for those that can't get IPv6
> through their ISP and need it.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:13 PM Spencer Ryan <sryan at arbor.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes but HE doesn't serve residential users directly. To a normal person HE
>> is no different than NTT/GTT/Verizon/Sprint/Any other transit carrier. They
>> may move the most v6 traffic, but Comcast is the largest ISP actually
>> getting v6 to end users.
>> 
>> 
>> *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan at arbor.net
>> *Arbor Networks*
>> +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m)
>> www.arbornetworks.com
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Cryptographrix <cryptographrix at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't remember the source, but I do remember that even with Comcast's
>>> deployment, HE still represented the majority of IPv6 traffic in the US.
>>> 
>>> Of course, it could just be a bunch of us heavy IPv6 users.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:03 PM Spencer Ryan <sryan at arbor.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Comcast is near 100% on their DOCSIS network (Busniess and residential).
>>>> That should be the largest single ISP for IPv6 for end users in the USA.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan at arbor.net
>>>> *Arbor Networks*
>>>> +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m)
>>>> www.arbornetworks.com
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Cryptographrix <cryptographrix at gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Depends - how many US users have native IPv6 through their ISPs?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I remember correctly (I can't find the source at the moment), HE.net
>>>>> represents something like 70% of IPv6 traffic in the US.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And yeah, not doing that - actually in the middle of an IPv6 project at
>>>>> work at the moment that's a bit important to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:45 PM Baldur Norddahl <
>>>>> baldur.norddahl at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Den 4. jun. 2016 01.26 skrev "Cryptographrix" <
>>>>> cryptographrix at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The information I'm getting from Netflix support now is explicitly
>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>> me to turn off IPv6 - someone might want to stop them before they
>>>>>>> completely kill US IPv6 adoption.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not allowing he.net tunnels is not killing ipv6. You just need need
>>>>> native
>>>>>> ipv6.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the other hand it would be nice if Netflix would try the other
>>>>> protocol
>>>>>> before blocking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 