EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

bzs at theworld.com bzs at theworld.com
Thu Jul 28 19:22:05 UTC 2016


The difference between everyone posting here and for example the
intellectual property folks like RIAA is the latter has organization
and money.

As I said earlier one thing that organization and money has done is
defined, with some precision, where the boundaries are. It's a moving
target but that's a lot better than nothing.

And money for lobbyists etc to go to govts and courts to impress them
with their point of view and even get it written into law and
precedents.

It's not perfect, nothing is, but when someone puts up a music sharing
service with a million recordings none authorized in Lower Slobbovia
they usually manage to get it shut down (that happens, ok not Lower
Slobbovia exactly.)

Something else they get is budget assigned to law enforcement agencies
to pursue those commercial violations.

I remember speaking early on to someone in an FBI office about spam
and related, this was probably ca 2000, and he completely sympathized
but said sorry, the FBI has no budget to pursue such things.

Like many very nice people you think LEAs pursue crimes merely because
they are crimes. That the money to do so just appears on demand
because IT'S A CRIME! Book 'em Dan-o!

Hah! I'll repeat that. Hah!

These are commercial crimes not terrorism or kidnapping or murder or
tearing those labels off mattresses.

Much more difficult to get on LEAs radar.

On the darker side be careful what you wish for.

You won't personally be defining these boundaries. People like
lobbyists and policy wonks and legislators will. People this
hypothetical organization hires and those influenced by those
hires. People who can spend full time wordsmithing all this and
getting attention.

It takes very active involvement to steer good intentions to good
results and not just end up with scattershot gibberish or worse
overbearing laws which do more harm than good.

And that all takes organization and money and involvement not postings
on NANOG except inasmuch as they might lead to organization and money
etc.

It's possible and maybe even desirable but what I see here ain't it.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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