For this kind of question you might hav emore luck on the mailop list, https://chilli.nosignal.org/mailman/listinfo/mailop Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <dot at dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h punycode North Fitzroy, Sole, Lundy, Fastnet: Westerly 5 or 6. Moderate, occasionally rough later. Rain or drizzle. Moderate or poor, occasionally good.