NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?

Fri Jul 1 17:08:35 UTC 2016

I have to agree with Rick here.

Owen

> On Jun 29, 2016, at 22:43 , Rick Astley <jnanog at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have to agree with Dan in that even if you disagreed with the talk you
> have to agree that it probably spawned relevant discussion and reflection
> (both on and off list). I would hate to see a move to ideas and discussions
> that are chosen simply for offending the fewest people. Another sort of
> similar critique aimed at large routing vendors was "Help! My big expensive
> router is really expensive" at NANOG 60 in Atlanta. Perhaps the critiques
> were seen as more constructive and I don't remember the same backlash after
> the talk but I found both talks and various discussions that followed
> insightful.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Golding <dgolding at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hmm - as far as whether this was a good or bad NANOG presentation...this is
>> some of the best discussion I've seen on list in a while. There is a frank
>> exchange of views between many different parties. This may result in some
>> follow-up presentations at future NANOGs by IXP operators (please!).
>> 
>> Seems that, whether you agree with Dave or not, it was successful. It also
>> seems that the IXP operators who came under the most criticism have reacted
>> with a lot of professionalism and maturity. Other IXP operators have
>> reacted pretty poorly, which is ironic.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 