GPON vs. GEPON

Fri Jan 8 19:52:00 UTC 2016

True. I know a number of average users that also do what I am doing, however.

Owen

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:42 , Josh Reynolds <josh at kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> You are not the average user.
> 
> On Jan 8, 2016 1:39 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
> Only if the 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz networks are on the same SSID.
> 
> I don’t do that… I maintain separate 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz SSIDs. This allows me to know
> which one I am on and force when desirable (usually forcing 5Ghz is desirable).
> 
> Owen
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:03 , Josh Reynolds <josh at kyneticwifi.com <mailto:josh at kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
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>> Customer devices will see the higher signal on the 2.4GHz AP and simply connect to that, especially as they roam through the house. Most don't pay attention to SNR at all.
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>> On Jan 8, 2016 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net <mailto:nanog at ics-il.net>> wrote:
>> I think that was Josh's point, that 5 GHz will likely deliver better RF performance than 2.4 (despite physics) due to the amount of interference in 2.4.
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>> From: "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>>
>> To: "Josh Reynolds" <josh at kyneticwifi.com <mailto:josh at kyneticwifi.com>>
>> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>>, nanog-isp at mail.com <mailto:nanog-isp at mail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:46:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: GPON vs. GEPON
>> 
>> > Count in oversubscription rates for residential, and consider that most
>> > people, despite what they say or think, will end up on 2.4GHz wireless in
>> > the home due to 5GHz sucking more than a room away - that ends up being a
>> > very scalable solution for residential service.
>> 
>> Um… 5GHz works a lot better from one end of my house to the other than 2.4Ghz
>> due (in large part) to this fact… Almost every one of my neighbors is using
>> various 2.4GHz devices including about 45 external SSIDs visible from the
>> center of my house using the on-board antenna of an ESP8266 board from Adafruit.
>> 
>> The noise floor and congestion on 2.4GHz in many urban settings, especially here
>> in Silicon Valley makes 5Ghz a much better option in any home where people are
>> smart enough to pay attention to the difference.
>> 
>> OTOH, since the WiFi consortium took away the ability for consumers to easily
>> differentiate (it’s all “n” or “ac” now regardless of frequency) and you have
>> to really read the fine print on the side of the box to find a 5Ghz capable
>> WAP at your local big box store, most consumers end up on 2.4Ghz because those
>> are the least expensive routers on the shelf.
>> 
>> Personally, I don’t mind this, but I think the 2.4Ghz prevalence has more to do
>> with consumers not knowing what they are buying than it does with performance.
>> 
>> Owen
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