Cogent & Google IPv6

Patrick W. Gilmore patrick at ianai.net
Wed Feb 24 20:48:22 UTC 2016


“Tier One” used to mean SFI or customer downstream to every prefix on the ‘Net. Today it is more like “transit free”, since some “tier one” providers have paid peering.

And Ricky is wrong, the vast majority of prefixes Cogent routes have zero dollars behind them. Cogent gets paid by customers, not peers. (At least not the big ones.)

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

> On Feb 24, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> Isn't that how "Tier 1s" have always operated? Like, always? Customers or peers with peers subject to various requirements. 
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> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
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> Midwest-IX 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam at gmail.com> 
> To: "Matt Hoppes" <mhoppes at indigowireless.com> 
> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog at nanog.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:18:24 PM 
> Subject: Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:46:56 -0500, Matt Hoppes 
> <mhoppes at indigowireless.com> wrote: 
>> Isn't that how the Internet is suppose to work? 
> 
> Perhaps. But that's not how *Cogent* works. They have a very idiotic view 
> of "Tier 1". They have no transit connections with anyone; someone is 
> paying them for every prefix they accept. 
> 
> Translation: No one in their right mind does business with Cogent. 



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