Softlayer / Blocking Cuba IP's ?

Max Tulyev maxtul at netassist.ua
Sun Feb 21 11:16:27 UTC 2016


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On 20.02.16 02:57, frnkblk at iname.com wrote:
> Official statement here: https://knowledgelayer.softlayer.com/faq/softlayer-network-wide-ip-blocking
> 
> Frank
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+frnkblk=iname.com at nanog.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:21 PM
> To: Carlos A. Carnero Delgado <carloscarnero at gmail.com>
> Cc: nanog list <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Softlayer / Blocking Cuba IP's ?
> 
> Ola Carlos, 
> 
> I am very familiar with Govt. instituted restrictions, and yes, people always find ways to get around it. I cannot speak for the Cuban Gov. nor for the US Gov. as to what they decide to do and when. 
> 
> What was/is irksome about Softlayer's decision is the following:- 
> 
> 1) Unilateral implementation of a restricted policy without any notification. 
> 
> 2) The broad stroke implementation of a Gov Policy that does not apply to the communication service they applied the policy to. 
> 
> i.e. As much as we all dislike Dictatorial Behavior, and we fully recognize Softlayer is a Private Entity, who can exercise it's right to act Dictatorially, Such behavior in the overall community (Internet) is frowned upon and (as it should) have a long term negative affect to business. 
> 
> Saludos. 
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz 
> Snappy Internet & Telecom 
> 7266 SW 48 Street 
> Miami, FL 33155 
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support at Snappytelecom.net 
> 
>> From: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" <carloscarnero at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal at snappytelecom.net>
>> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog at nanog.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:08:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: Softlayer / Blocking Cuba IP's ?
> 
>> Hi,
> 
>> (disclaimer: I'm Cuban national, living in Cuba, and a long time lurker in this
>> great list)
> 
>> 2016-02-19 15:27 GMT-05:00 Faisal Imtiaz < faisal at snappytelecom.net > :
> 
>>> Considering the fact that such a block was just put in place about a week ago ?
>>> Last time I checked, blocking any part of the world is not part of any legal
>>> requirements on any Global Service Provider ? other than a 'company policy' ?
> 
>> Being denied access to services, as a Cuban national, is something that we've
>> all experienced here and we (sadly) have come to accept it as a fact of life.
>> Sometimes we resort to proxies/VPNs in order to conceal our origin -- and by a
>> similar token, sometimes, our destination ;).
> 
>> However, there are a couple of things that have made me wondering how arbitrary
>> decisions can be. I think sometimes it just boils down to specific provider
>> policies that try to (maybe rightfully) cover their bottoms in the light of the
>> law. For instance, I can't hide the fact that I have access to Gmail; but at
>> the same time there are many Google properties and services than I can't. There
>> are many companies, global companies, that I can't access, and others are open
>> to us which are, paradoxically, completely based on the US and under US law
>> (won't name them publicly to avoid potential damage).
> 
>> Any way, I'm going back to lurk mode. However, feel free to ask anything, on- of
>> offlist. And I thank you all for this wonderful resource.
>> Carlos.
> 
> 
> 



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