Acquiring unused IP range. Some questions

Tony Tauber ttauber at 1-4-5.net
Mon Dec 5 16:18:09 UTC 2016


It would be helpful also if the whois record is updated with the Origin AS
listed.
See ARIN's post on the topic: https://www.arin.net/resources/originas.html

Tony

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <faisal at snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> > My question is, what do they and we need to do to accomplish that in
> > the proper way, so that the internet at large would accept the
> advertisement
> > from a different ASN,
>
> The internet in terms of IP Prefix advertisements is a 'Trust' based
> system.
>
>
> > and not view as some sort of hijacking, etc.
>
> The difference between Hijacking vs a valid advertisement is the simple
> LOA document a.k.a having permission to do so..
>
>
> >  I am guessing they may need to update some RADB or something like that,
> but i’ll be
> > honest my knowledge of how those things work and their complete function
> is
> > pretty slim.
>
>
> Only if you are using it for yourself or if your upstream is using it to
> create their prefix Filter lists.
> RADB is not the only RRDB provider, ARIN also provides this service
>
> > This would be a short term thing as we expect the purchase process to
> complete
> > pretty quickly, but it would be advantageous to us to be able to
> advertise the
> > space immediately.  We just want to make sure we start off on the right
> foot.
> >
>
> All you need is permission from the IP block owner (LOA) and the
> appropriate upstream filters to be setup or opened.
> Which could be a manual process (provide them a copy of the LOA) or could
> be a 'Trust' based using RRDB Record which someone has to create and update.
>
> Best of luck.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William McLendon" <wimclend at gmail.com>
> > To: "nanog list" <nanog at nanog.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:43:57 PM
> > Subject: Acquiring unused IP range.  Some questions
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > we are about to acquire a block of IP’s from another organization that
> has
> > unused space, and being fairly new to these procedures, I was hoping for
> some
> > guidance.
> >
> > We have already been pre-approved by ARIN for the block size we are
> acquiring,
> > and finalizing the deal with the current owner of the address space.
> First
> > question is, once they initiate the transfer request to transfer the IP
> range
> > to us, how long does that typically take for ARIN to complete?
> >
> > Secondly, our relationship with the IP block owner is a very good one,
> such that
> > I think they would be ok with us advertising this block before we
> technically
> > own it.  My question is, what do they and we need to do to accomplish
> that in
> > the proper way, so that the internet at large would accept the
> advertisement
> > from a different ASN, and not view as some sort of hijacking, etc.  I am
> > guessing they may need to update some RADB or something like that, but
> i’ll be
> > honest my knowledge of how those things work and their complete function
> is
> > pretty slim.
> >
> > This would be a short term thing as we expect the purchase process to
> complete
> > pretty quickly, but it would be advantageous to us to be able to
> advertise the
> > space immediately.  We just want to make sure we start off on the right
> foot.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Will
>


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