10G-capable customer router recommendations?

Faisal Imtiaz faisal at snappytelecom.net
Sat Apr 16 01:10:33 UTC 2016

Hope you all realize a few minor details:-

Mikrotik is a  ROS (Router Operating System), based on linux.
Mikrotik also makes hardware called RouterBoards.
  Having said that...
Mikrotik ROS runs on X86 platforms (such as Lanner or axiomtek)
Similarly you can also run linux on the Routerboard platforms.

Having said that... 
  Lanner & Axiomtek etc x86 appliances have one pcie slot, where you can install the NIC of your choice.
  Dual 10g SFP+ Intel Card or 2/4/6 port Hotlava Card, or Chelsio etc.

You can mix and match to suite your needs. 
Don't like RouterBoard or CCR's, no problem you can run MT ROS on an X86 Platform of your choice.
These days you can even run it on a VM solution...
Don't like MT ROS, no problem feel free to run your choice of OS, and routing daemons. 
Want a high performance x86 Firewall... inexpensive.. look at Server-U, ask them about their custom solution with Chelsio Cards.
Don't like any of the above, feel free to by a Box with a Name on it (Brocade, Cisco, Juniper etc etc)..

Yes, each platform has it's advantages, and it's short comings, and no one solution fits all needs.

(Want to tow your boat, get a Hummer, want to go fast, get a ferrari.... don't try to tow you boat with a ferrari, or race in the streets with a hummer !)



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Chase" <math at sizone.org>
> To: "nanog list" <nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:24:56 PM
> Subject: Re: 10G-capable customer router recommendations?

> Does that lanner even do SFP+? Dont see it listed in the specs. Looks like 4210
> has
> 2x SFP+, though their 'performance' level products look more in line with
> 'useful'.
> http://www.lannerinc.com/products/x86-network-appliances/x86-rackmount-appliances/fw-8877
> As for the microtics, wonky user interface, so very unciscolike (i guess thats
> my problem - but the GUI thing feels like a toy), but for their midrange models
> I found
> their bgp convergence times pretty poor on their low end cpus...
> What do you put on the lanner? OpenBGPd? Quagga? Also looking for a 10G solution
> here, low power (than a full ASR stack..) is my goal for 5-6 full bgp feeds.
> /kc
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 07:45:39PM -0400, Michael Brown said:
>  >Not *exactly* what you're asking for, but a Lanner appliance
>  >(???http://www.lannerinc.com/products/network-appliances/x86-rackmount-network-appliances/nca-5210)
>  >might suit your needs.
>  >
>  >M.
>  >
>  >?? Original Message ??
>  >From: David Sotnick
>  >Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 16:19
>  >To: NANOG
>  >Subject: 10G-capable customer router recommendations?
>  >
>  >Hello masters of the Internet,
>  >
>  >I was recently asked to set up networking at a VIP's home where he has
>  >Comcast "Gigabit Pro" service, which is delivered on a 10G-SR MM port on a
>  >Comcast-supplied Juniper ACX-2100 router.
>  >
>  >Which customer router would you suggest for such a setup? It needs to do
>  >IPv4 NAT, DHCP, IPv4+IPv6 routing and have a decent L4 firewall (that also
>  >supports IPv6).
>  >
>  >The customer pays for "2Gb" service (Comcast caps this at 2G+10% = 2.2Gbps)
>  >and would like to get what he pays for (*cough*) by having the ability to
>  >stream two 1Gbps streams (or at least achieve > 1.0Gbps).
>  >
>  >I'm tempted to get another ACX-2100 and do a 4x1Gb LACP port-channel to the
>  >customer switch, or replace the AV-integrator-installed Cisco SG300-52P
>  >(Cisco switch with e.g. an EX-3300 with 10Gb uplinks).
>  >
>  >Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>  >
>  >-Dave
> Ken Chase - math at sizone.org

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