phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

Larry Sheldon larrysheldon at
Thu Apr 14 20:14:41 UTC 2016

On 4/14/2016 12:09, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2016, at 05:46 , John Levine <johnl at> wrote:
>>> If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you won't
>>> have out-of-area numbers other than a rare corner case of a very
>>> expensive foreign exchange line. If they're VoIP lines, the address is
>>> *supposed* to be so registered, but softphones and even VoIP handsets
>>> tend to move around without the user considering 9-1-1.
>> VoIP was dragged kicking and screaming into E911, so now they charge
>> extra and are quite clear about it.  My VoIP provider regularly
>> reminds me to update my 9-1-1 address, but since I don't have to pay
>> the 9-1-1 fee if I lie and say I'm outside North America, that's what
>> I do.  Since I also have a classic CO-powered copper landline (1/4
>> mile from the CO, no concentrators or repeaters) and a couple of cell
>> phones, I think we're covered.
> With my VOIP provider, I didn’t quite have to lie.
> I generally don’t need my VOIP number when I’m in the US (cell is free here),
> so I simply told them “I do not intend to use this number or this service
> within the US”.
> The first time I sent them a marked-up contract, they contacted me with
> questions. The following year, the new version of the contract reflected
> my changes to their original wording.
> Since then, I’ve been pretty much satisfied with my service from callcentric
> and the price is right.

Quick question:  What happens (in the purely hypothetical case, I 
sincerely hope) if the building is on fire and it turns out that the 
VOIP-phone is the only one that works?

Do you leave it turned off?

sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

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