udp 500 packets when users are web browsing

Oliver O'Boyle oliver.oboyle at gmail.com
Thu Sep 3 14:26:59 UTC 2015


That would do it. Almost certainly enforced by GPO in that case so at least
it's easy to change if you need to.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Robert Webb <rwebb at ropeguru.com> wrote:

> Yes, we are looking at this now.
>
> Thanks for everyone's help. I think we are heading in the right direction
> tracking this down. This just showed up in our monitoring and makes sense
> as we just brought up a new locked down domain.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:19:53 -0400
>  "Oliver O'Boyle" <oliver.oboyle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You can configure Windows to encrypt traffic based on protocol
>> definitions.
>> E.g., Use IPSEC to encrypt all traffic on port 80 between hosts X and
>> hosts
>> Y.
>>
>> It's possible that such a policy is in place locally on the workstations
>> and/or servers and it's also possible that it's being enforced using GPOs.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Robert Webb <rwebb at ropeguru.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is no VPN in the picture here. These are straight workstations on
>>> the network that the packets are coming from.
>>>
>>> According to a pcaket capture in wireshark, these are isakmp packets
>>> reaching out to host names of web sites that are being browsed. So
>>> destinations are sites like twitter, facebook, amazon, cnn, etc..
>>>
>>> We have further discovered that they seem to be initiated from the
>>> Windows
>>> 7 svchost, but we have not been able to find documentation as to how or
>>> why
>>> this is ocurring.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:42:21 +0000
>>>  "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists at lists.zabbadoz.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 03 Sep 2015, at 13:35 , Robert Webb <rwebb at ropeguru.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We are seeing udp 500 packets being dropped at our firewall from user's
>>>>> browsing sessions. These are users on a 2008 R2 AD setup with Windows
>>>>> 7.
>>>>>
>>>>> Source and destination ports are udp 500 and the the pattern of drops
>>>>> directly correlate to the web browsing activity. We have confirmed this
>>>>> with tcpdump of port 500 and a single host and watching the pattern of
>>>>> traffic as they browse. This also occurs no matter what browser is
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone shine some light on what may be using udp 500 when web
>>>>> browsing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The VPN using IPsec UDP-Encap connection that supposedly gets through
>>>> NAT?   Have you checked the content with tcpdump?   Do you have
>>>> fragments
>>>> by any chance?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>> :o@>
>>
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