the crap mail flood and the nanog culture

Andrew Kirch trelane at
Mon Oct 26 20:46:41 UTC 2015

The unequal treatment we see here is why, so many years ago, I fought and
threatened to rhsbl .mail.  We've built the walled garden anyway, and now
we're damned for it.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Chris Knipe <savage at> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Randy Bush <randy at> wrote:
> > you might think that with all the committees, boards, badges, ... that
> > there was an actual operator in the nanog resume building circle who
> > would actually do something useful about the crap mail flood now into
> > its second day.
> >
> >
> I'd actually like to go as far as to say that the same can be said about
> certain hosting provider's abuse departments, and RBL operators too...
> Yet, if ACME Nuts & Bolts with a small VPS at some random hosting provider
> sends ONE spam message, their servers are shutdown almost no questions
> asked (never mind a good number of what, hundred thousands, over a period
> of days) -sigh-
> It's amazing how 'fair' the playing field on the Internet has become.
> --
> Regards,
> Chris Knipe

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