How to force rapid ipv6 adoption

Cryptographrix cryptographrix at
Fri Oct 2 14:48:29 UTC 2015

For ISPs that already exist, what benefit do they get from
providing/allowing IPv6 transit to their customers?

Keep in mind that the net is now basically another broadcast medium.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:33 AM Steve Mikulasik <Steve.Mikulasik at>

> I think more focus needs to be for carriers to deliver dual stack to their
> customers door step, whether they demand/use it or not. Small ISPs are
> probably in the best position to do this and will help push the big boys
> along with time. If we follow the network effect (reason why IPv4 lives and
> IPv6 is slowly growing), IPv6 needs more nodes, all other efforts are
> meaningless if they do not result in more users having IPv6 delivered to
> their door.
> I think people get too lost in the weeds when they start focusing on
> device support, home router support, user knowledge, etc. Just get it
> working to the people and we can figure out the rest later.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at] On Behalf Of Mark Andrews
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 6:01 PM
> To: Matthew Newton <mcn4 at>
> Cc: nanog at
> Subject: Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption
> In message <20151001232613.GD123100 at>, Matthew Newton
> writes:
> Additionally it is now a OLD addressing protocol.  We are about to see
> young adults that have never lived in a world without IPv6.  It may not
> have been universally available when they were born but it was available.
> There are definitely school leavers that have never lived in a world where
> IPv6 did not exist.  My daughter will be one of them next year when she
> finishes year 12.  IPv6 is 7 months older than she is.
> Some of us have been running IPv6 in production for over a decade now and
> developing products that support IPv6 even longer.
> We have had 17 years to build up a universal IPv6 network.  It should have
> been done by now.
> Mark
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> >
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