How to force rapid ipv6 adoption

Todd Underwood toddunder at
Fri Oct 2 00:16:50 UTC 2015

one interesting thing to note...

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 8:01 PM Mark Andrews <marka at> wrote:

> Some of us have been running IPv6 in production for over a decade
> now and developing products that support IPv6 even longer.
> We have had 17 years to build up a universal IPv6 network.  It
> should have been done by now.

yes.  huh.  funny about that, right?  what do you think accounts for that?
 *why* do you think that *17* *years* later people are still just barely
using this thing.

i have a theory.  i may have already mentioned that "dual stack and ipv4
will wither away by itself" turns out to have been a dumb idea that didn't
happen. and there was no migration path other than that, really.

so v6 and v4 don't interoperate as designed and that was an afterthought
that didn't really happen until recently (and in a way that's still
arguably more complex than NAT).  and here we are.

so here's my view:  if you have some technical solution for a networking
problem that no one wants for 17 years, you should really probably think
about that.  you might not even have to wait 17 years to figure out that
something might be wrong.

most good stuff is adopted without "evangelism".


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