Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

Josh Reynolds josh at
Fri May 8 01:40:41 UTC 2015

What churn rates are you talking about?

Josh Reynolds

On 05/07/2015 05:36 PM, Watson, Bob wrote:
> Many of these churn rates result from problems  self inflicted hence all the dramatic sdn promises, popularity in abstractions, Api all the things, let's go yang/netconf and retrofit every ietf standard.  There's benefits  but gotta rant a little. What's better than correct? Well over correct of course.
>> On May 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Josh Reynolds <josh at> wrote:
>> You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs.
>> Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP for either a new series or a totally different vendor. New backhaul vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, juniper, HP, mikrotik, ubiquiti, Linux, windows, *BSD/pfsense, lucent, accedian/ciena, etc due to various client and network requirements all in the same week, AND you have to make them work together nicely :)
>> It's not the environment for somebody like that, and I truly don't understand how people of that.. "caliber" end up working on large scale WANs and global transit networks.
>> Frankly, it scares me a bit.
>>> On May 7, 2015 9:07:35 AM AKDT, Craig <cvuljanic at> wrote:
>>> we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced
>>> knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we
>>> get
>>> a blank stare.....
>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom <rs at> wrote:
>>>> Josh Reynolds <josh at> writes:
>>>>> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so
>>>>> worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one
>>>>> thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these
>>>>> batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get
>>>>> lazy. They simply can't seem to operate well, if at all, in a
>>>>> non-Cisco (primarily) environment.
>>>> If that bothers you, I recommend you not look at what passes for a
>>>> "system administrator" these days.  It will make you cry.
>>>> -r
>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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