Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

Barry Shein bzs at world.std.com
Wed Mar 11 02:45:04 UTC 2015


Not a problem, the discussion was getting a bit out of hand so
misunderstandings are unsuprising.

Thank you for adding your expertise and experiences.

        -Barry Shein

The World              | bzs at TheWorld.com           | http://www.TheWorld.com
Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD        | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada
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From: Scott Helms <khelms at zcorum.com>
>Barry,
>
>First, I want to apologize.  I (badly) misread your email, but in case I
>should not have responded that way.  I would have gotten this out sooner,
>but I was traveling back from the CableLabs conference.
>
>
>Second, my assertion is simply that Usenet servers aren't automagically
>symmetrical in their bandwidth usage and that trying to build a system off
>of NNTP so that each broadband subscriber became in effect a Usenet server
>wouldn't work well without significant modifications.
>
>Third, if anyone cares the Usenet server we ran was news.america.net
>
>
>Scott Helms
>Vice President of Technology
>ZCorum
>(678) 507-5000
>--------------------------------
>http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
>--------------------------------
>
>On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Barry Shein <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> From: Scott Helms <khelms at zcorum.com>
>> >
>> >/em shrug
>> >
>> >I can't help it if you don't like real world data.
>> >On Mar 3, 2015 2:25 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Ok, then I no longer have any confidence that I understand what you
>> >> were asserting.
>>
>> Generally when someone says they don't understand me I assume it's my
>> fault for not being clear and try to clarify.
>>
>> Apparently you prefer to be rude.
>>
>> *Plonk*
>>
>> --
>>         -Barry Shein
>>
>> The World              | bzs at TheWorld.com           |
>> http://www.TheWorld.com
>> Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD        | Dial-Up: US, PR,
>> Canada
>> Software Tool & Die    | Public Access Internet     | SINCE 1989     *oo*
>>
><div dir=3D"ltr">Barry,<div><br></div><div>First, I want to apologize.=C2=
>=A0 I (badly) misread your email, but in case I should not have responded t=
>hat way.=C2=A0 I would have gotten this out sooner, but I was traveling bac=
>k from the CableLabs conference.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Se=
>cond, my assertion is simply that Usenet servers aren't automagically s=
>ymmetrical in their bandwidth usage and that trying to build a system off o=
>f NNTP so that each broadband subscriber became in effect a Usenet server w=
>ouldn't work well without significant modifications.</div><div><br></di=
>v><div>Third, if anyone cares the Usenet server we ran was <a href=3D"http:=
>//news.america.net">news.america.net</a></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
>ra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
><div><br></div>Scott Helms
><br>Vice President of Technology
><br>ZCorum
><br>(678) 507-5000
><br>--------------------------------
><br><a href=3D"http://twitter.com/kscotthelms" target=3D"_blank">http://twi=
>tter.com/kscotthelms</a>
><br>--------------------------------=C2=A0<br></div></div></div>
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Barry Shein =
><span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bzs at world.std.com" target=3D"_blank=
>">bzs at world.std.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
>te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>><br>
>From: Scott Helms <<a href=3D"mailto:khelms at zcorum.com">khelms at zcorum.co=
>m</a>><br>
>><br>
>>/em shrug<br>
>><br>
>>I can't help it if you don't like real world data.<br>
>>On Mar 3, 2015 2:25 PM, "Barry Shein" <<a href=3D"mailto:b=
>zs at world.std.com">bzs at world.std.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Ok, then I no longer have any confidence that I understand what yo=
>u<br>
>>> were asserting.<br>
><br>
>Generally when someone says they don't understand me I assume it's =
>my<br>
>fault for not being clear and try to clarify.<br>
><br>
>Apparently you prefer to be rude.<br>
><br>
>*Plonk*<br>
><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
>--<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -Barry Shein<br>
><br>
>The World=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | bzs at TheWorld.co=
>m=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| <a href=3D"http://www.TheWorld.=
>com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.TheWorld.com</a><br>
>Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | D=
>ial-Up: US, PR, Canada<br>
>Software Tool & Die=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Public Access Internet=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
>=C2=A0| SINCE 1989=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*oo*<br>
></font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>


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