Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

Barry Shein bzs at world.std.com
Tue Mar 3 19:24:58 UTC 2015


Ok, then I no longer have any confidence that I understand what you
were asserting.

From: Scott Helms <khelms at zcorum.com>
>Odd how the graphing for the top 1000 Usenet servers showed exactly the
>pattern I predicted.
>On Mar 2, 2015 3:46 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>  > Anything based on NNTP would be extremely asymmetric without significant
>>  > changes to the protocol or human behavior.
>>  >
>>  > We ran significant Usenet servers with binaries for nearly 20 years and
>>  > without for another 5 and the servers' traffic was heavily asymmetric.
>>  > On Mar 1, 2015 9:11 AM, "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> With all due respect it's like people act purposely obtuse just to
>> argue.
>>
>> If you're a Usenet server (and most likely client) then it'll be
>> somewhat symmetric.
>>
>> Depending on how many nodes you serve the bias could easily be towards
>> upload bandwidth as msgs come in once (ideally) but you flood them to
>> all the other servers you serve once per server, the entire traffic
>> goes out multiple times, plus or minus various optimizations like
>> "already have that msg" oh for the love of all that is good and holy
>> do I have to type the entire NNTP protocol spec in here just to make
>> sure there isn't some microscopic crack of light someone can use to
>> misinterpret and/or pick nits about???
>>
>> What was the original question because I think this has degenerated
>> into just argumentativeness, we're on the verge of spelling and
>> grammar error flames.
>>
>> I don't know how anyone who claims to have run Usenet servers couldn't
>> know all this, is it just trolling?
>>
>> --
>>         -Barry Shein
>>
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