Fwd: Residential VSAT experiences?

Tue Jun 23 00:18:03 UTC 2015

I had Hughes Net a few years back and can confirm that SSH access was
pretty much intolerable for me.
The delay between what I was typing, and when it would actually show up on
the screen in the remote terminal was really annoying for me.
As mentioned in previous responses, I think you would want a low orbit
satellite internet provider, if you can find one for residential use.

In my case, I had a land line, but was too far out for ADSL, so I ended up
getting ISDN (*with unlimited local calling on my phone plan*).
Of course the SSH usage experience then was much better.

Al

On 06/22/2015 04:04 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote:> Personally, 500-700ms of
delay is well within distinguishable range and
> causes challenges in verbal communication.  If the speakers are both
> expecting and accustomed to delay like that (e.g. sailors that are used
> to being hundreds/thousands of miles away from anywhere and any other
> comms solution sucks anyway), it could be workable.
>
> For regular consumer/business voice applications, 100ms and lower is
> decent, but above that starts to get into various degrees of suckage.
>
> Just my 2c.
>
> --
> Hugo
>
> On Mon 2015-Jun-22 15:54:49 -0700, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I never had good luck with VSAT and SIP. Maybe you had a better kit
>> than I
>> did :)
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Dovid Bender <dovid at telecurve.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting that you say that about sip. We had a client that would
>>> use it
>>> for sip on ships all the time. It wasn't the best but it worked. Ping
>>> times
>>> were between 500-700ms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dovid
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon at gmail.com>
>>> Sender: "NANOG" <nanog-bounces at nanog.org>Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:33:43
>>> To: Nicholas Oas<nicholas.oas at gmail.com>; NANOG<nanog at nanog.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Residential VSAT experiences?
>>>
>>> SIP will suck. VPN will suck. RDP will suck.
>>>
>>> Have you looked to see if you have any local wireless ISPs in your area?
>>> Hit me up offlist if you want me to check for you.
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Nicholas Oas <nicholas.oas at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Would anyone mind sharing with me their first-hand experiences with
>>> > residential satellite internet?
>>> >
>>> > Right now I am evaluating HughesNet Gen4 and ViaSat Exede and I'm
>>> thinking
>>> > specifically as a sysadmin who needs to use the uplink for work, not
>>> surf.
>>> >
>>> > What are your experiences with the following applications?
>>> > -SSH, (specifically interactive CLI shell access)
>>> > -RDP
>>> > -SIP over SSL
>>> > -IPSec Tunneling (should be a non-starter due to latency)
>>> > -GRE Tunneling
>>> >
>>> > Thank you,
>>> >
>>> > -Nicholas
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Lyon
>>> 408-621-4826
>>> mike.lyon at gmail.com
>>>
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Lyon
>> 408-621-4826
>> mike.lyon at gmail.com
>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon