eBay is looking for network heavies...

Sat Jun 6 15:50:00 UTC 2015

Sort of back-tracking on the OP JD - is one to derive from the posting and
requirements for the job(s) that:

1. the need arises because of the eBay - PayPal split?
2. is PayPal leaving with the openstack [need for] expertise and associated
IaaS parts (http://www.openstack.org/user-stories/paypal/), while eBay is
keeping a more traditional infra setup?

Stefan

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Brandon Ross <bross at pobox.com> wrote:

> I also concur.  There is most certainly a negative correlation between
> certs and clue in my experience, having met 10s of certificate holders.
>
> Long ago when the MCSE was more popular, I actually started putting "MCSE
> need not apply" on job postings because everyone I interviewed that had one
> was not just clue challenged, but had negative clue.
>
>
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, jim deleskie wrote:
>
>  Based on the number of "certified" people I've interviewed over the last
>> 20yr, my default view lines up with Jared's 100%
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
>>> On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, <nanog at cdl.asgaard.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch <jared at puck.nether.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer <john at op-sec.us> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a
>>>>>>> piece
>>>>>>> of paper every time!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>
>>>> the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
>>>>>> troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
>>>>>> different than the rest of the world).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Jared, don’t generalize.
>>>>>
>>>>> True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not
>>>>> start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
>>>>> didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 't
>>>>
>>>> We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't "click" no matter how
>>>> much we tried to train on the architecture.  Eventually in one backbone
>>>> event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router
>>>> because "traceroute worked."  When it was pointed out that the potential
>>>> fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look.  We
>>>> then asked him to explain how traceroute worked.  He spectacularly
>>>>
>>> failed.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question.  What was boggling was
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics.
>>>>
>>>> My test, as crass as it is.  If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am
>>>> pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience.  If it's
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> footnote somewhere, that's ok.
>>>>
>>>>         Christopher
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  —
>>>>> CCIE #15929 R&S/SP, CCDE #2012::17
>>>>> (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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