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I asked one of my guys to tracert in windows for something and he executed pathping.  I have never seen that in 25 years....  Go figure!

James Laszko
Mythos Technology Inc
jamesl at mythostech.com

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> On Jun 5, 2015, at 18:40, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
>> On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, <nanog at cdl.asgaard.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote:
>> 
>> On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch <jared at puck.nether.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer <john at op-sec.us> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a
>>>>> piece
>>>>> of paper every time!
>>>> 
>>>> Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is that
>>>> the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
>>>> troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
>>>> different than the rest of the world).
>>> 
>>> Jared, don’t generalize.
>>> 
>>> True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not
>>> start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
>>> didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.
>> 
>> 't
>> 
>> We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't "click" no matter how
>> much we tried to train on the architecture.  Eventually in one backbone
>> event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router
>> because "traceroute worked."  When it was pointed out that the potential
>> fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look.  We
>> then asked him to explain how traceroute worked.  He spectacularly failed.
>> 
>> It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question.  What was boggling was the
>> number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics.
>> 
>> My test, as crass as it is.  If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am
>> pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience.  If it's a
>> footnote somewhere, that's ok.
>> 
>>        Christopher
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> —
>>> CCIE #15929 R&S/SP, CCDE #2012::17
>>> (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)
>> 
>> 
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