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Sat Jun 6 01:38:31 UTC 2015

We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, <nanog at cdl.asgaard.org> wrote:

> On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote:
>
>  On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch <jared at puck.nether.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer <john at op-sec.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a
>>>> piece
>>>> of paper every time!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can you please put these at the back of the line?  My experience is that
>>> the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual
>>> troubleshooting skills.  (or my standards of what defines “expert” are
>>> different than the rest of the world).
>>>
>>
>> Jared, don’t generalize.
>>
>> True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not
>> start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
>> didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting.
>>
>
> 't
>
> We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't "click" no matter how
> much we tried to train on the architecture.  Eventually in one backbone
> event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router
> because "traceroute worked."  When it was pointed out that the potential
> fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look.  We
> then asked him to explain how traceroute worked.  He spectacularly failed.
>
> It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question.  What was boggling was the
> number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics.
>
> My test, as crass as it is.  If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am
> pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience.  If it's a
> footnote somewhere, that's ok.
>
>         Christopher
>
>
>
>> —
>> CCIE #15929 R&S/SP, CCDE #2012::17
>> (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)
>>
>
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