Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

Fri Jul 10 06:08:21 UTC 2015

On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 21:15:57 -0400, Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au> wrote:
> Actually I was mentioning thousands.

Dozens, millions, whatever. Pick something and get on with it already.

> What you personally don't foresee is pretty much irrelevant to what will
> actually happen...

And planning for a future that doesn't happen because you're too caught up  
in *planning* that future is irrelevant, too.

> Like pretty much the entire current generation of net techs, your
> imagination is limited by your past. But there are kids in school right
> now who do not suffer from the same limitations - and they will build
> wonders.

And in ~15 years when they have a jobs, they can change what we built.  
(assuming ever let the paint dry long enough to use it.)

> PS: People keep dissing "home users" saying how they are incapable of
> understanding stuff and installing all these complex networks. Twenty
> years ago getting online at home took lots of know-how; getting more
> than one device online in the home took even more. Now you can just buy
> a $50 bit of kit, plug it in and your desktops, laptops, smartphones,
> tablets, televisions, digital radios and wireless sound systems just
> work. With main and guest networks, multiple wifi protocols, and in many
> cases basic IPv6 as well. There is no reason to think that the
> complexity of future networks will not be equally well packaged for the
> home.

20 years ago was 1995. It took "some" know how (how to run setup.exe on  
the floppy you ISP sent you.) Windows 95 made it much easier by having  
that software in the default OS. Building a network took a bit longer to  
(a) be wanted/needed and (b) be available and affordable in the home. (few  
people had more than one computer to network in the first place. Today,  
you have three of them on your person at any given moment.)

Despite the proliferation of the internet and network tech, the average  
person today knows even less than two decades ago. Because everything  
"just works". IPv6 will never get there until it, too, "just works". We're  
still a long way off in the home -- both because providers aren't doing  
it, and because the CPE tech is lagging. Mobile by contrast, due to  
necessity and speed of tech turnover, is there already; you have to  
intentionally check to know you're using IPv6.