discussing how to stop hacking is hacking which is now racketeering

Jim Popovitch jimpop at gmail.com
Wed Jan 14 20:19:42 UTC 2015

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Ken Chase <math at sizone.org> wrote:
> http://blog.erratasec.com/2015/01/obams-war-on-hackers.html
> Therefore, immediate end of this thread? Are all subscribers to this list now
> to be inconvenienced at airports? (Sorry, my bad.)
> Do we all need a CCNP Security-multipass to log into IRC now?  Which channels
> are now a good idea to avoid? #linux? #bitcoin? #nanog? #obamasucks?
> #blacklivesmatter?  (in Canada #idlenomore is similar and equally targetted by
> Palantir/Tempests as the latter was).
> What constitutes racketeering in 'communication'? Membership on a mailing list
> or just reading a webpage?
> [ This week I was investigating a colleague's website, so I ran dig(1) in a
> bash terminal in putty - she saw a text terminal, and exclaimed "Wait, stop, are
> you hacking my website?!" I blame Sandra Bullock and to a lesser extent Carrie
> Ann Moss (and the nmap crew, esp. for using actually-plausible toolsets/techniques). ]
> This is an age old game, but the ante has just been upped. Our industry should
> respond to this.

One has to wonder how any of this applies to the 'countries that hack'
accusations that the FBI/CIA/NSA have always laid claim to.

-Jim P.

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