DDOS solution recommendation

Phil Bedard bedard.phil at gmail.com
Sun Jan 11 19:34:03 UTC 2015


Many attacks can use spoofed source IPs, so who are you really blocking?  

That's why BCP38 as mentioned many times already is a necessary tool in 
fighting the attacks overall.  

Phil 




On 1/11/15, 4:33 PM, "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:

>I didn't necessarily think I was shattering minds with my ideas. 
>
>I don't have the time to read a dozen presentations. 
>
>Blackhole them and move on. I don't care whose feelings I hurt. This 
>isn't kindergarten. Maybe "you" should have tried a little harder to not 
>get a virus in the first place. Quit clicking on male enhancement ads or 
>update your OS occasionally. I'm not going to spend a bunch of time and 
>money to make sure someone's bubble of bliss doesn't get popped. Swift, 
>effective, cheap. Besides, you're only cut off for 30 days. If in 30 days 
>you can prove yourself to be responsible, we can try this again. Well, 
>that or a sufficient support request. 
>
>Besides, if enough people did hat, the list of blackholes wouldn't be 
>huge as someone upstream already blocked them. 
>
>
>
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>Mike Hammett 
>Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>http://www.ics-il.com 
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>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins at arbor.net> 
>To: nanog at nanog.org 
>Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:29:33 AM 
>Subject: Re: DDOS solution recommendation 
>
>
>On 11 Jan 2015, at 22:21, Mike Hammett wrote: 
>
>> I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong, I'm saying whatever the 
>> industry as a whole is doing obviously isn't working and perhaps a 
>> different approach is required. 
>
>You haven't recommended anything new, and you really need to do some 
>reading in order to understand why it isn't as simple as you seem to 
>think it is. 
>
>> Security teams? My network has me, myself and I. 
>
>And a relatively small network, too. 
>
>> If for example ChinaNet's abuse department isn't doing anything about 
>> complains, eventually their whole network gets blocked a /32 at a 
>> time. *shrugs* Their loss. 
>
>Again, it isn't that simple. 
>
>----------------------------------- 
>Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at arbor.net> 
>




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