Input Regarding Cogent and NTT

Thu Feb 5 20:05:00 UTC 2015

We've been on Cogent for 3 years now.

I have to say the experience has been nice. Good sales, great NOC. We even
had a dirty fiber issue with their uplink (due to the MMA owner) and Cogent
stayed on the phone with me for hours and got it handled before we hung up
the phone. So great NOC too.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:

> They are persistent, but by no means the most persistent vendor I work
> with.
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Alistair Mackenzie" <magicsata at gmail.com>
> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 1:35:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT
>
> Don't be surprised if cogent contact you for even posting this.
>
> They did it to me when I asked for hibernia.
> On 5 Feb 2015 19:16, "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
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> > Working on it. ;-)
> >
> > Being an eyeball network, most of my traffic just goes to NetFlix,
> Akamai,
> > LimeLight, FaceBook, Google, etc. anyway. Peer what you can peer, Cogent
> > for customer routes, then grab a couple nicer carriers and call it a day.
> >
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> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick at ianai.net>
> > To: nanog at nanog.org
> > Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 12:54:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT
> >
> > By that logic, and giving you the benefit of the doubt that you follow
> > your own advice, you have 15-20 upstreams?
> >
> > I've never tried that on a standard network with BGP as the only tool.
> See
> > any interesting operational stuff with that many upstreams?
> >
> > Also, while many people knock Cogent, I would submit that many people
> have
> > bad first-hand experiences with Cogent (including me).
> >
> > Every network has its bad days. Even the best companies screw customers
> > from time-to-time. But the preponderance of evidence is a useful
> guidepost.
> > Cogent is large, but does not have even half the customers NTT has. Do
> > "lots of people knock NTT"? Given NTT's much larger number of customers,
> > shouldn't that mean they have more knocks?
> >
> > If not, I submit the disparity is a useful datapoint when choosing a
> > provider.
> >
> > --
> > TTFN,
> > patrick
> >
> > Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos.
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 5, 2015, at 12:29, Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > A lot of people knock Cogent, but the best way to get to Cogent's
> > customer's is probably through Cogent. Given that they do have a very
> large
> > network, they're worth picking up even if you only use them for customer
> > routes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Mike Hammett
> > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > http://www.ics-il.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: "Jack Stonebraker" <Jack.Stonebraker at mygrande.com>
> > > To: nanog at nanog.org
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 11:24:59 AM
> > > Subject: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT
> > >
> > > My organization is currently shopping for some additional Transit
> > Capacity to augment our existing interconnects. We've got around 8
> distinct
> > AS's that we're receiving transit routes from, followed by a handful of
> > Public IX's and Private PNI's to AS's that warrant them. That said, the
> > networks that are on our radar are Cogent and NTT. I've done some due
> > diligence poking around on their Looking Glass, but I'd love to hear any
> > user experiences from the community, both from a Layer 3 Perspective, as
> > well as an Operational Perspective (Working with the businesses
> > themselves). Feel free to contact me off-list and thanks in advance for
> > your time.
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> > >
> > > Jack Stonebraker | Sr. IP Network Engineer
> > > (512) 878-5627 | jack.stonebraker at mygrande.com<mailto:
> > john.hogan at mygrande.com>
> > > Grande Communications Networks
> > > 401 Carlson Circle | San Marcos, Texas | 78666
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